Sanctuary in the Jungle

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december 4, 2025

joe bugni| Episode 03

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About the Episode

In this episode of Sanctuary in the Jungle, host Aaron Nelson sits down with Attorney Joe Bugni for an honest conversation about the craft — and the cost — of good advocacy.

 

Together, they explore the clearest ways to communicate with judges, why flashy arguments aren't always the best choices for a client, and what it means to give yourself fully to the people you represent. 

 

Joe also opens up about the harder side of that calling: the moments when giving too much pushes you to your breaking point, and how you find your way back. It’s a vulnerable, grounded look at the heart of defense work — the clarity, the sacrifice, and the humanity behind it.

 

Participants

Joe Bugni
Aaron Nelson | @sanctuaryinthejungle

Aaron Nelson speaking on the podcast
Aaron and Michele on the Sanctuary in the Jungle Podcast
Michele Lavigne speaking on the podcast

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